Friends, there is no Left in Poland politics.

Stanislaw Barszczak, You are everything to me- the verdict of life

(This world is more radical than ever before, Salman Rushdie said. The myths, political fairy tales. Salman Rushdie is master of the “Magic Realism”, in his latest book the writer explains what these dramatic realities are.)

On the 21st floor of a building near Central Park, New York, a corridor of closed doors and discreet nameplates leads to that literary holy of holies, “the Jackal” Agency. There I have an appointment with their most refulgent star of all: Salman Rushdie. Within moments Salman Rushdie, equally punctual, arrives and breaks the spell. He is affable and warm in greeting, hot in person – this is Manhattan in midsummer. His striped linen shirt, cotton trousers, white socks and trainers manage to avoid any hint of fashion except of the engagingly crumpled variety. We have met before, in a distant past in London when Rushdie was still living under the Ayatollah Khomeini’s fatwa (prompted by Rushdie’s 1988 novel The Satanic Verses), with no known address, bodyguards at his side, forced to travel in armoured cars. For the past 15 years he has lived in New York. His 12th novel, Two Years Eight Months and Twenty-Eight Nights, will be published round the world in the English language this week. On this novel, Salman Rushdie talks about the folklore and the city that inspired it, the importance of the right to disagree – and why talk of his wild social life is greatly exaggerated . Set in the near future after a storm strikes New York City, Two Years features a gravity-defying gardener called Geronimo, and Dunia, princess of the jinn. They tend to be amoral, sneaky, lustful, power-hungry and irreligious.

“The source material is a great storehouse of tales I grew up with, that made me fall in love with reading. I thought this is the literary baggage I’ve carried around all my life and now I’m putting my bags down. Let’s see what happens when I unpack them and those stories escape into this place,” Salman Rushdie says. At fewer than 300 pages and having taken three years to write, it is one of Rushdie’s shorter books. It traverses the world of the 12th-century philosopher Ibn Rushd (Averroes), spanning New York and Fairyland, with walk-on parts for Isaac Newton, Henry Ford, Mother Teresa and Harry Potter. “Yes they’re all there to be squeezed in,” Rushdie says, as if in explanation, “It might be the funniest of my novels.” This means that you, like all the descendants of Ibn Rushd, Muslim, Christian, atheist or Jew, are also partly of the jinn. The jinni part, being far more powerful than the human part, is very strong in you all, and that is what made it possible for you to survive the otherness in there; for you are Other too.

Despite its subject matter, Two Years is surprisingly benign. “Yes, it’s almost a series of love stories,” Rushdie agrees, a softness in his always well-modulated voice. “I thought it would be so easy, given the news every day, to make a despotic fantasy in which everything is terrible, then it gets worse and ends horribly. That’s exactly why it isn’t interesting to do that. So what should I do instead? I had the idea that there might be a future which is a lot better than we currently have any right to expect.” “The novel is, I think, about reason and unreason. You can’t simply say rational is good and irrational bad. One aspect of unreason is imagination and dream. When reason and fantasy are combined, they produce wonders. When separated they create monsters. I think many people feel these days that the familiar rules of the world seem not to apply any more.”

Is he referring to a loss of courtesy and decency, or to security, war, technology? “I mean the way we think things are. We all have our own understanding of what the world is and how it works. And suddenly a whole range of things have happened, partly technological, partly political, the end of the cold war, the rise of religious extremism, the transformation of the world by electronic communication. Suddenly a lot of people, I think, feel a little at a loss.” “Is that people only ever hear the word magic. The point is that it is a way of trying to combine the fantastic and the realistic into a single narrative.”

Today the question of religious fanaticism has become so central to all of us we all have to think about it. At least I can do my best to use the experience I have had to try to respond as an artist.” Rushdie perceives the Islamic revival as “a narrative of power which can confront overweening western power, and make otherwise very powerless individuals feel as if they’ve got some power.” One of the most striking things in the past 25 years, he has noticed, is the cheapening of the value of individual human life, “which certainly a humanist tradition would value very highly. Individual life has become, for many people, disposable.

The American Christian right is a force closer to home. I do think God is responsible for a lot of trouble. But other respects America has been a time of redemption and reunion.
As Rushdie said so pertinently in his memoir, “Migration tore up all the traditional roots of the self”. Of New York he observes: “The very rich immigrant texture of this city is something I find endlessly fascinating. And by the way, it has created a rich new wave of American literature. We all know American literature owed a lot to European culture, to Italian, to eastern European Jewish migration and so on. I don’t feel particularly alienated from England. It’s just that in New York I found a place that I like living. 2Most of my closest family are still there. I am so rooted to England, he says. Salman Rushdie works an ordinary office day, rarely breaking for lunch. I’m not a 5am person or I used to work till lunchtime then go off and play tennis. He laughs I’m quite a gregarious person. But a writer’s life is a writer’s life. i spend most of my time alone in a room. If you don’t, books don’t get written. As it happens, I’ve written a lot of books, which means I must have spent a certain amount of time alone in a room… You know it never used to be like that. I think it was entirely because when I first came to New York I became involved with an extremely beautiful woman and that’s when all this started. There’s nothing much I could do about it. That’s what happened. I was extremely fortunate.

Rushdie has 1.06 million followers on Twitter. Twitter gives you a megaphone. Some of his tweets are extremely funny. One, from a student in Nepal, said: “Dear Sir, with due respect our college teacher told us you have african [sic] girlfriend younger than you?” Rushdie, now 68, replied: “Nonsense. My girlfriend is from Antarctica and is much older than I am. I hope that helps.” It is always the simple that produces the marvelous. Kindness is always fashionable, and always welcome. Love is when the other person’s happiness is more important than your own. Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. The smile is the beginning of love. Love is composed of a single soul inhabiting two bodies. Spread love everywhere you go. Let no one ever come to you without leaving happier. I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be no more hurt, only more love, saint mother Teresa says. A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another, Jesus Christ said. The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire.

So, Salman Rushdie isn’t the man who lost his memory and gave much to neuroscience. No, no, he is gentelman. Rushdie knows the face of the woman he loves as a sailor knows the open sea. A very small degree of hope is sufficient to cause the birth of love. Love does not dominate; it cultivates. Someday, after mastering the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness for God the energies of love, and then, for a second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin said… Without brackets or full stops, Salman Rushdie laughs long and hard and disappears into the hushed corridor to go in search of the Jackal.

The writer is gone, but I was left with my thoughts. So, I begin to speak, after many months of silence. So, I would say, about 15 years ago I went though a period of a year or so when I just couldn’t find anything good. My wife noticed I was having trouble reading menus. I bought some cheap reading glasses in a drug store. I got home and suddenly all these books that weren’t good were good. Poland has always been a nation of small places, and as we lose them, we’re losing part of ourselves. But this is the place to which I return, not as I have, repeatedly and obsessively, in fictional lives but to a Ząbkowice village that I know too well: the polestar to which my mother came. Not everyone writes well from a child’s point of view. Though, people in small towns, much more than in cities, share a destiny. So, I am writing, I just pray for continued good health, because I’ve got other stories to tell. I have to have a character worth caring about. I tend not to start writing books about people I don’t have a lot of sympathy for because I’m just going to be with them too long. Writers are people who put pen to paper every day, they are looking for the intensity of writing. What we buy, and pay for, is part of ourselves. Ultimately, your theme will find you. You don’t have to go looking for it. I keep people love. Our form of democracy is bribery, on the highest scale. Some writers take to drink, others take to audiences. I’m simply reporting on the world I observe, which is frequently hilarious. At any given moment, public opinion is a chaos of superstition, misinformation and prejudice. It is very difficult for a writer of my generation, if he is honest, to pretend indifference to the work of Francis pope. He was always so entirely there.

The writer’s only responsibility is to his art,” William Faulkner once remarked, and the phrase became good as law. A writer, he said, was “driven by demons.” If he was any good, it was because he was ruthless, willing to sacrifice whatever it took to tell his story. Forget pride, honor, decency…The whole idea of the novel…allowing us to see something we didn’t know before is essential. If you wished to be loved, love. Though, love is only a dirty trick played on us to achieve continuation of the species, I have W. Somerset Maugham’s sentence here. We must build our affection. This utter is responsible for nine-tenths of whatever solid and durable happiness there is in our lives, C. S. Lewis said. Woe to the man whose heart has not learned while young to hope, to love – and to put its trust in life, Joseph Conrad said. Don’t walk behind me; I may not lead. Don’t walk in front of me; I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend, Albert Camus said. Love has reasons which reason cannot understand. As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you, Jesus Christ says. Don’t walk behind me; I may not lead. Don’t walk in front of me; I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend, Albert Camus said. Love consists in this, that two solitudes protect and touch and greet each other, Rainer Maria Rilke said. Love is the beauty of the soul, Saint Augustine has spoken. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same, Emily Bronte has written. We loved with a love that was more than love. Your words are my food, your breath my wine. You are everything to me. Love is the crowning grace of humanity, the holiest right of the soul, the golden link which binds us to duty and truth, the redeeming principle that chiefly reconciles the heart to life, and is prophetic of eternal good, Petrarch said. Lord, grant that I might not so much seek to be loved as to love, this is saint Francis’ of Assisi prayer. So, don’t forget to love yourself.
(a poetic license text is written by stanislaw Barszczak)

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